I received this question in a comment on my “SEO Expert Q&A” starter post, so here goes:
Comment by Dan on April 26, 2007 12:45 pm
Lara,Could you please comment on a keyword research service called nichebot.com and if the kei is really such a good indicator of a good opportunity. I noticed that the title tag google competition results are not really accurate… have you seen this before?
Thanks for your question, Dan.
First let me start by saying that I don’t use nichebot, and I haven’t really dug into it too much, since they won’t let you do anything if you’re not willing to pay a dollar to try it out. I don’t like “squeeze pages” (the page that you’re brought to when you try to click on something that scrolls a mile long with calls to action in bright bold red every other block - they reek of “quick money making scheme” to me) and I dislike them so much that whenever I come across one, I click out and go find something else. Yep, I know - they only seem to want a dollar for a 14-day trial. But I just don’t trust anyone who’s still using pages like that.
That said, let me delve a little deeper into the whole keyword research thing. There are lots of ways to figure out if a niche or topic is going to be profitable for you. I personally use WordTracker - but honestly, I only use it to get more ideas on related topics for a term I’m already interested in, and I pay absolutely zero attention to the KEI analysis. In fact, I don’t even include it in the keyword list I send to clients when I’m seeking approval on targeted words and phrases. Keyword research is the absolute tip of the iceberg, and depending on what you’re doing and how far you can expand your mind, using any keyword discovery tool might not be necessary at all.
Let’s say for example that you’re wanting to build a site about fishing in the Great Lakes region of New York. The very first thing I would do if you came to me would be to go to the three major search engines and do a search for that (fishing Great Lakes New York) to see what’s already out there.
Google pulls 1,250,000 results
Yahoo pulls 6,190,000 results
MSN pulls 197,166 results
HUGE differences, right? But let’s take a closer look…
The sites listed in the top 10 for each engine are pretty much the same exact sites, just placed in different rankings. Google shows the DEC in #1, while Yahoo puts it in the #4 spot, and MSN tosses it down to #5.
Personally, I’m not scared of 1 million pages, any more than I am of 6 million pages. I’d love to take on this project! What I’d do at this point is use WordTracker (or whatever keyword discovery tool you prefer - even nichebot I suppose) to find other things we can talk about on this site.
A quick pull through WT gives me a lot on Lake Erie fish species; “Lake Erie Bass”, “Lake Erie Walleye”, “Lake Erie Steelhead” and a lot about ecology around the Great Lakes; “Great Lakes watershed”, “Great Lakes environment”, “Great Lakes environmental directory”.
“Lake Erie Bass” shows 10 phrases that have those three words in them. Of those 10 phrases, the predicted search count goes no higher than 7, the actual goes no higher than 4.
Now here’s my magic statement on this: If you could optimize and market your site for that phrase “Lake Erie Bass” in just half these phrase results (5), and got 2 search hits a day for each one (10 hits per day) and 40% of those hits resulted in a sale (4 sales per day), aren’t you doing pretty well? Don’t forget that you’ve got at least 5 other phrases you’ve found to work with, and we’re just talking search traffic here (no other form of advertising).
I know you’re probably thinking, “Yeah, but that’s a small niche. I want something bigger.”
So go bigger! Build a section of your site on Great Lakes fishing, a section on fishing the Mississippi, a section on deep sea fishing in the Atlantic, one on deep sea fishing in the Pacific and so on.
For each section, do the very same thing - check the search results and see what the top 20 or 30 listings are doing. Expand your own mind to think of new ideas, check out how much competition there is by doing manual searches on the topic, and see what other phrases they’re using to target search traffic.
The bottom line here is that if you’re optimizing and marketing the site properly and filling it with good, useful and fresh content you really won’t have to worry about ranking well in the search engines. This goes for any topic and any niche.
If you want to use a program like WordTracker, Nichebot, Keyword Discovery and so on - go ahead and do it. But don’t rely on those temporary results for your permanent work. You need to focus on your niche, expand it to related topics and not worry about what people are searching for - you can’t market your site for “deep sea fishing” if you’re not going to provide enough relevant and useful info on it to begin with and expect to get anywhere in the search engines anyway.
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